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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:14:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Thank you for implementing a solid system. This is a nice example of risk being rewarded and risk aversion being shunned.
Unless you own a POS is lowsec. Risk you always had AND higher operating cost. Win/win right? |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:55:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Thank you for implementing a solid system. This is a nice example of risk being rewarded and risk aversion being shunned. Unless you own a POS is lowsec. Risk you always had AND higher operating cost. Win/win right? If you set up your own PCO's on the planets in your lowsec system, you are actually lowering your operating costs (and possibly opening an income stream from others) at increased risk.
This only holds true if you make your own POS fuel. To be honest never dealt with it, but given trade volumes it would suggest there are alot of people who aren't. I can see them being rather livid that a part of the game they choose not to partake in is (potentially) causing a great change in the way they operate. They can start making their own, but necessitating POCO placement and defense as well as PI operation on those who don't want it just to maintain current costs just seems like a bad idea. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Endovior wrote:Ptraci wrote:Mara Tessidar wrote:I'm sorry, sometimes I have trouble containing my evil glee at your realization that PI is no longer a free ISK printer in highsec and may actually require effort and risk to turn a much higher profit. No, you haven't stopped to think about what this means for null sec. AFAIK customs offices can be popped by anyone sov or no sov. Prepare to lose all your POS fuel to your enemies via raids. Customs Offices do reinforce. If you can hold a POS, you should be able to hold a Customs Office. And if you can't hold a POS... well, you shouldn't be stockpiling your PI goo in the Customs Office, anyways. You realize there's a difference between an armed structure and a floating target, yes? Because you cant tank a POS 
I believe his point was that, unlike a POS you CAN'T tank a POCO. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 03:20:00 -
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Vio Geraci wrote:You pubbies know that the prices of planetary materials will increase to the point where this is profitable again, right? Probably even for most stuff in high-sec, too, though I can see a steady supply of plasma planet stuff from low/null out-competing high-seccers.
PI will scale accordingly, I have little doubt of that. It's the cost of anything PI related scaling as well that I'm not looking forward too. But eh, if this is the course it goes, so be it. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 04:51:00 -
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pmchem wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:pmchem wrote:This thread is like a honeypot for people bad at economics. It's pretty awesome.
The markets will adjust to the new taxes. The tax changes secured the important future of PI in Eve. Of course, the Goonies are failing to realize that this increase in PI prices will result in smaller corps finding their cost of maintaining their pos in high sec, low, whatever too expensive should the PI prices "adjust" accordingly. Taking away people's ability to play how they want is bad for Eve. So, so bad at economics. What do you think happens to airfare prices in the real world when the price of crude oil goes up over a sustained period of time? Nothing, and planes all just stop flying? No: the cost is passed on to the consumer. Producers reliant on POS can also increase their sales price and continue making profits -- and they will. Nothing is being taken away from people. The economic value of a certain activity is being increased. In time, markets will adjust.
That's actually probably the best explanation why alot of people don't like it. The impending wave of inflation doesn't sound particularly great to me. Maybe I'm missing something. That and the fact that smaller groups are going to have more issues getting POCO's up and keeping them defended. |
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